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Hi
I have had my site for well over two year now and before adding shop window Google had over 50,000 pages from our site listed, I added shop window on Saturday gone, by Sunday my shop had cached 246 pages from our shop Dir. On Monday for some reason my results disappeared from google results as if they have been deleted or removed. At first i thought it was just a spider update, but its now Thursday and still my results are not back.
Has anyone else noticed this problem? its a rumor google block a lot of malware and think this may be the problem, does any one know if there is any dodgy malware included within shop window, I am running the latest version of shop window.
Let us know if you have seen any change in google. also if you site is not new, how long did it take google to list pages from your shop.
web address is http://www.pricenap.co.uk/shop/
Another thing is bad URLs many people have URL re_write code to change there URL but for some reason they are not sharing there knowledge on here, just does not feel like a community.
Hope you can help
Kind Regards
There is no malware in ShopWindow.
I've read that if you make site-wide changes to your site then Google will 'sandbox' your site for a while so it can figure out whether the content is still basically the same. This is to counteract spammers buying up old ranking sites and completely replacing the site with irrelevant spam pages.
Integrating ShopWindow will instantly add thousands of pages to your site which is gonna look pretty bad to Google until it can figure out what all the new content is. It should come back eventually.
but for some reason they are not sharing there knowledge on here
That reason would be competitive edge. The reality is we're all here to make money for ourselves not others. Those that know how to do this kind of thing probably found and learned from tutorials on the web, they are out there.
That reason would be competitive edge....
Agree, but with a couple of caveats. I would help more if I could, but I'm struggling to keep up with even some of the minor suggestions in the forum.
I help where I can but most of it is above my head!
Also, there has been some invaluable sharing of information, especially by some of the main contributors, so I think it's a little unfair for pcgiant to say no-one is sharing. I would certainly be lost if this forum wasn't here.
Just my 2p's worth.
Confuscius
16-11-07, 13:17
Google is completely unpredictable at the moment from what I have seen and read - I have one site that loses 80% of its traffic for a few days then come back then goes then comes back, etc. Also the site has some 350,000 pages in the Google index so the reasons for the comings and goings are to do with algorithm changes and not my site! You just have to ride the wave so to speak.
I have found that people share an awful lot on this forum that will help people to hopefully make shop window useful and it seems to me that a lot of people still fail to comprehend a simple fact - the more traffic you get then the more you will earn, IMO! Personally, you could hardly describe my Shop Window sites as pretty compared to what some have created as I prefer to pretty up AFTER they have traffic! Once you have traffic you can then start playing with things - for example I have found that a 'More Info' button is more successful than a 'Buy Now' button and that different colour schemes can increase sales - this is the fun bit!
As regards the obsession with URL re-writing then all I can say is that it seems to have little effect on search engine positions - in fact my best performing site is a hybrid of rewritten and not rewritten pages - just to be different because most of the so-called SEO gurus know as much as I do and that is not a lot. What I do know is that my success comes from experimentation and trying to do things differently. My guess is that those Shop Window sites that do well are run by people who try to think outside of the box to create some unique aspect to what they are doing - there are quite a few examples within the forums.
Getting sites indexed is always fun but I have found that if you have a site that is well indexed then you can use it to get the next one indexed by some intelligent backlinking. Otherwise, it is fairly simple the more external links you generate to your pages then the faster the indexing will be, in general.
Paul
Thank you all for your notes!
Please note i did not say all people on here i said "many people" sorry if i offended anyone.
Hope google has not put my pages into a sand box, I am loosing links every day from google and sales have now gone to non existent.
Think I may have to use pay per click, again, Only thing being it eats money, But if keywords are used and specify region sales should come rolling in, I hope.
I've got another question, if a customer clicks to Woolworth's from my site then goes to Woolworth's again from another shopwindow store and then purchases, who will get the commission?
I've got another question, if a customer clicks to Woolworth's from my site then goes to Woolworth's again from another shopwindow store and then purchases, who will get the commission?
ShopWindow commissions work on a 'last referrer' basis, in this case meaning that the last ShopWindow store visited will earn the commission.
Regards,
Adrian
SW Integration & Technical Support
adrian.botelho@digitalwindow.com
www.digitalwindow.com
Quick extention to that question Adrian.
If someone clicks from a shopwindow site, then later goes DIRECTLY to the woolworths site, is commission generated?
Hi Andy,
Yes, that's correct. The cookie is dropped upon the initial click-through, as long as the cookies are not then cleared you will still generate a commission.
Adrian
SW Integration & Technical Support
adrian.botelho@digitalwindow.com
www.digitalwindow.com
chartfieldconsultants
21-11-07, 02:42
the more traffic you get then the more you will earn, IMO! Personally, you could hardly describe my Shop Window sites as pretty compared to what some have created as I prefer to pretty up AFTER they have traffic!
Speaking as someone with pretty sites and absolutely no traffic, I second this!
Speaking as someone with pretty sites and absolutely no traffic, I second this!
:D
I had good traffic... for 3 days in October. They were the days.
Now Google hates me again... traffic from everywhere but the UK and hits for items that no longer exist or can't be found. Mind games.
IntroSites
21-11-07, 16:47
I dont get a huge amount of traffic from Google, they have indexed just under 20k pages
I know this'll cause a stir:
I've never sold anything from a Google hit.
Yahoo is where the money comes from!
Yahoo is where the money comes from!
Intrigued. Is that from organic search results or do you do some other kind of promotion: sitemaps, ads, paid directory listings, product feeds?
I'd say for every 100 hits I get from Google I get 1 from Yahoo. I don't think that's down to ranking either, they just seem to be about a 2 years behind with indexing. This goes for all my other sites, affiliate or not.
Confuscius
22-11-07, 16:35
What I find so annoying is the Google turn the tap on and turn it off algorithm. As an example, below are my day to day relative traffic figures for November where 100.00 is my best day.
64.61
49.30
20.42
3.87
36.09
56.87
66.37
54.05
55.99
52.46
67.96
14.44
11.27
13.38
55.11
100.00
88.56
16.73
14.79
10.56
11.44
So you can see that when the tap is on then I get 8x more traffic than a day when it is off - this is due to Google's overlay filters that hide stuff (so you can probably forget everything that the experts tell you!). From my various experiments I am still looking for the turn on switch! Earnings are basically proportionate to traffic! I would love to compare to other peoples traffic profiles - hint, hint!
The best performing SW site appears to be shopwindow.com and its subdomains - in fact the Alexa chart is an interesting view! Perhaps SW might like to disclose their traffic sources as it does not appear to be 'natural' list rankings. I am guessing it is those affiliates who point at shopwindow.com
So my basic question is, how variable is your traffic on a day to day basis?
Paul
Paul
My traffic is mostly PPC. Despite being Googled to death I get very little natural hits (< 5%).
PPC campaigns vary daily as they are being refined - so in a nutahell I can't really offer any conclusions - apart from my SEO is obviously in need of attention!
Bud
Confuscius
22-11-07, 18:34
Hi Bud
I trust that the PPC is profitable - my own view was that PPC would be really hard given that my real business is as a bricks and mortar and online retailer and I enjoy a slightly higher commission rate and PPC is now so expensive!
Consequently this raises yet another question, without naming specifics, what ROI's are people seeing in general terms on PPC campaigns?
Positive numbers only, I hope!
Paul
Intrigued. Is that from organic search results or do you do some other kind of promotion: sitemaps, ads, paid directory listings, product feeds?
I'd say for every 100 hits I get from Google I get 1 from Yahoo. I don't think that's down to ranking either, they just seem to be about a 2 years behind with indexing. This goes for all my other sites, affiliate or not.
I Never do PPC, way too expensive when your pushing affiliate links (unless of course, you're running a performics or related campaign, funny that!)
I get more hits from Google than any other engine, but the conversions are better from Yahoo.
Ive often thought that Google is becoming a webmaster and SEO engine, only ever used by people trying to game it.
I use Yahoo sitemaps btw, they really help indexing on yahoo as their bot tends to only follow links down to 1 or 2 levels. With a sitemap, they index everything I throw at them
IntroSites
26-11-07, 22:14
Remember shopwindow.com was indexed first by Google so every other one is duplicate content
Confuscius
27-11-07, 00:37
Shopwindow may have been the first to have SOME of their pages indexed but there are some sites with far more pages indexed and with far more content! :)
There are also many ways to address the issue of duplicate content (if you can define what duplicate means). Just look at each aspect of Shop Window and add a bit here, change a bit there, make a bit more visible, change the layout, use a field to pull in some extras, add some alt tags, add some title tags, start at a different point, amend the menus, mod rewrite abit, etc, etc. So there are lots of things to play with to make things a bit different.
Paul