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Why is this forum so difficult to find??
before the release of SW3 there was a nice big button to click to access this forum. Now there is a tiny little "Click here to visit the forum." link hidden at the bottom of the page SW3 page.
If the link to the forum was easier to find (on the navigation menu would be a good place!) maybe more people would contribute...
Rant over... :)
I visit here every day several times a day generally, so I have the link bookmarked as a favourite, that's the easiest way, doesn't get new people here and posting though, which I guess is your point.
I doubt having a big red button on the main page of AWs would make a great deal of difference as to how much people contributed here though, it aint worked in the past, so doubt it would make much difference this far down the lines, although if half the effort was put into getting people onto this forum as is put into getting people onto that crappy affiliates4u 3rd party forum, this place would probably have been heaving from the start and this place would have become what that place has. Bit of bad planning that one.
2nd rant, there are too many forum sections - just how many forums do we need when there are only a few people posting?
I see the new SW3 has created another 9 forum sections!! if there were less to chose from, conversations might start rather than threads only a few posts long... however i am pretty new round here so guess i shouldnt moan too much...
I visit here every day several times a day generally, so I have the link bookmarked as a favourite, that's the easiest way, doesn't get new people here and posting though, which I guess is your point.
I doubt having a big red button on the main page of AWs would make a great deal of difference as to how much people contributed here though, it aint worked in the past, so doubt it would make much difference this far down the lines, although if half the effort was put into getting people onto this forum as is put into getting people onto that crappy affiliates4u 3rd party forum, this place would probably have been heaving from the start and this place would have become what that place has. Bit of bad planning that one.
2nd rant, there are too many forum sections - just how many forums do we need when there are only a few people posting?
I see the new SW3 has created another 9 forum sections!! if there were less to chose from, conversations might start rather than threads only a few posts long... however i am pretty new round here so guess i shouldnt moan too much...
No harm in moaning, so long as it's constructive, at least that's what i've found. If ya moan too much, a quick slap from George generally brings you back to reality, lol.
Regarding too many forums, the organised forum manager side of me partially agree's, as it does make it a little confusing and sometimes difficult to know where the fek to post anything, but the other side of me, the side that uses the new posts button and todays post button and the likes, says, it doesn't make that much difference that way, there's never enough posts to really get too lost in the system. But I have been around for a while on here and so the amount of sections doesn't really bother me at all either way any more.
One of the big problems that this place will always have, is that every user on here, is essentially competing against every other user for sales and cold hard cash, so besides stuff which helps everyone, like spambot killing and general basic tips and rants and the likes, most people are loathed to help others, because everyone wants to keep their own special techniques and the likes to themselves. There's cold hard cash to play for, it brings out the monster in people.
There's cold hard cash to play for, it brings out the monster in people.
yeah, thats a good point. we're all out to make cash in one way or another. Personally i enjoy the technical challenge. i spend hours messing about with code, the money aspect comes second place for me..
The internet is huge and there is plenty of money to go around. people should lighten up a bit and start talking!!
Take a look at the "warrior forum" (google it) for an example of an affiliate focused forum where everyone shares ideas... im an active member on there - people arent afraid to share ;)
people should lighten up a bit and start talking!!
There are a few of us on here who do quite a fair percentage of the posts, sadly it's not us that are the issue regarding being prepared to discuss stuff on here, it's the people that sign up, ask the question regarding something they've got stuck with, get their answer, then as soon as they've got what they wanted, don't bother coming back, a lot of the time, not even to thank the person that did take time out to help them.
I visit the WarriorForum quite a bit, it's got a heck of a lot of useful information over there, an incident happened regarding copyright theft a while back which took me over there asking for advice. I do try to keep them completely seperate though, this one is a little specialised in what it does, it is pretty much specifically for the development of DWs tools, where as that one covers a much great area of internet marketing. I use a few sites like that mind, over the years i've gathered quite a collection of bookmarks for my internet work.
it's the people that sign up, ask the question regarding something they've got stuck with, get their answer, then as soon as they've got what they wanted, don't bother coming back
I completely agree with this.
There is a clear cut loyal set of members on this forum who have been around since day one and have really helped the community grow.
However, as with all forums there are those that sign on and just take rather than give.
In regards to clearing the forum up, that is something that we plan to do. Recreating the old forums for v3 was just the quickest way to do things and the last thing that we want to do is delete any information that is stored on this forum because there is a lot of valuable stuff.
The thinking behind the structure is that we have the three separate versions (and subsequent tools) all in separate forums. we envisaged this as a clear way of differentiating between each product.
How do you guys think this would be better structured? I would like to look into this. Open to ideas :)
Thanks
OK so taking a quick look at the front page ...
The V2 Testing Forum is no longer needed. Whilst deleting this information would be a bad move I think that we can "hide" this forum from view to stop clogging things up. Those that had access to this would still be able to view the forum via a URL.
ShopWindow Toolset Documentation v3 as a forum is no longer needed because all documentation is now handled on the wiki.
We split the V2 and V1 forums down so that they were not quite as in your face as before but I guess we could drill this down further so that they come under a Previous Versions link. My only objection to this is that I do not want posts to be too difficult to find for those still using V1 and V2?
Cheers
Hello
it's the people that sign up, ask the question regarding something they've got stuck with, get their answer, then as soon as they've got what they wanted, don't bother coming back
However, as with all forums there are those that sign on and just take rather than give.
:o :o
Finger pointers ;) giving me a complex.
If my coding wasnt so rudimentary, i'd love to beable to give rather than take.
Nole
Finger pointers ;) giving me a complex.
If my coding wasnt so rudimentary, i'd love to beable to give rather than take.
Nole
If you think the finger was being pointed at you, the easy way to remedy that and put that complex to bed... Join in... ;)
Believe me though, you really aren't where the finger would point, you've already joined in a lot more than most people ever do. There have been people who literally sign up, make 1 post with their questions, then that is it, not even a simply reply of thanks when someone has bothered to help and there really is nothing more annoying than that, about helping someone out, purely because you've been using thisa stuff longer and know how it works, for them to take what you've offered and say nothing, yet you know the advice you have given is actually going a way to make that person more competitive and more likely to take sales away from you. It is why some people now refuse to reply to threads where people are wanting help, which is kind sad really, as it's part of the catch 22 situation that ends up happening on here.
The easy way to give, is by regularly report any errors you find and not just wait for someone else to do it, like happens so often with people, it's essential for us all that we all report merchant feed bugs, some of the stupid mistakes that merchants make with their feeds are so simply yet terrifying to think that visitors get to read. Sharing proposals and ideas to how things could be improved with the script, with the feeds, with the way things work on here, what DWs could do for us, etc, etc. You'd quickly find a lot of being around isn't just helping others, it's also helping yourself by trying to get the scripts as best they can be.
I won't comment on the removal of forum sections though George, cause my use of the new posts button does kinda render sections void anyway, so i'll let others who do use the forums as section bits properly, say what they want on that. I do agree that V2 testing forum is definately dead though, but there are a few threads worth moving somewhere else from there though if I remember rightly.
Well to put my 'money where my mouth is' ive decided to open-source my own ASP.NET/C# implementation of SW3.
I'm cleaning up the code at the moment (sad lonely friday night for me!) and will get it uploaded very soon.
This should provide anyone who wants to build an Awin Web site in ASP.NET a good head start.
Am i crazy?? maybe i am, but like i said, i do this kind of thing mainly for the technical challenge.
However, anyone wanting to use the code will obviously need an Awin account, so if they sign up with one of my affiliate links (blatantly plastered all over the project page!) , I'll get a two quid slice of the cake and i believe some recurring income...
Once the first draft of the code is uploaded i'll post the link to the project hosting and you PHP boys can marvel at the awesome power of C# ;)
Once the first draft of the code is uploaded i'll post the link to the project hosting and you PHP boys can marvel at the awesome power of C# ;)
Let slip, the dogs of war :D