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Amoochi
19-11-08, 23:34
Ok... All of my hard work making my templates and someone goes and does this to me:

findpricelive.com

Not looking much like my site really is it:

http://www.amoochi.co.uk

For christs sake, the findpricelive domain wasn't even registered to that person until 31st October 2008

If your reading this or have read the email sent to you, I suggest you remove every single part of my work from that site immediately, otherwise I will make sure they are removed by all other legal means.

amcho
20-11-08, 00:22
nasty - looks like a rip off to me - could a moderator remove the findpricelive url in the original post so that at least amoochi is not promoting this persons website.
also the commission paid should be repaid to amoochi.....

Heres a thought - do a search on google for f--- e and post a question next to each of his press releases asking how come his site is identical to yours....

sourchocolate
20-11-08, 00:28
sorry to hear that.

how did you find out? I may check if our websites arent copied... :confused:

By the way, you can find the phone number - drop him a line and see what he says.

Amoochi
20-11-08, 00:30
Ya know, it might not boil my blood quite so much if it wasn't so blatently obviously stolen from me. I mean i've not even finished doing all the templates so far, yet the exact same template failings and non-formated bits have been stolen as well.

how did you find out? I may check if our websites arent copied... :confused:

My server has statistic software on it, that tells me lots of info about my sites and what is going on, who visits them and the likes, including what files are called and from where. I'm currently checking out whether anyone else has stolen my templates. I worked too damn hard on them to just let someone nick them from me.

You can also google image search, with unique image names it makes it pretty easy to check if your images are being leeched or used elsewhere.

authcode
20-11-08, 09:56
Sorry to hear this Amoochi. I'm an illustrator amongst other things and I hate seeing my work ripped off and spread across the internet without attribution or payment.

Is this guy leeching your images from your server aswell? If he is then you could block him access to start with.

Another angle would be to do an IP lookup to try to figure out who's hosting this site (if it's a company) and ask them to pull the site due to copyright infringement.

Failing that I'd ask AW to close his account or block his ShopWindow service. It's not like they don't already provide loads of good quality, free and legitimate templates.

Good luck, and give him everything he deserves.

authcode
20-11-08, 10:03
The offending site appears to be hosted by these guys:

http://www.softlayer.com/

This is their abuse email: abuse@softlayer.com

For what it's worth. With the amount of reselling going on you might need to follow the breadcrumb trail of IP addresses to find the actual hosting company.

Amoochi
20-11-08, 13:50
I sent this last night:

Dear Sir/Madam,

This is a formal demand that the templates that you have stolen for the http://www.findpricelive.com/index.php website from http://www.amoochi.co.uk be removed immediately otherwise legal proceedings will be taken out against you and enforced to the maximum they can be, together with the strongest possible complaints being made to Affiliate Windows, which will result in your removal from their affiliate network.

Thomas Martin

Owner/webmaster

http://www.amoochi.co.uk


So here is the response:

Dear Mr Martin,

I acknowledge your request, however due to your foul and abusive language as posted on "http://www.shopwindowforum.com/showthread.php?t=1061", I am deciding not to comment at this time.

Regards,

FindPriceLive


Ok, I guess I'm left with no choice but to take this further.

affiliatemad
20-11-08, 14:47
Sirs,

I am the proprietor of FindPriceLive that you all so swiftly jumped on throughout this post.

I have spoken to affiliatewindow and although I can prove that these templates originated by myself due to the dated template files (over 12 months) and the photoshop files for the images that I created, I have decided to leave the program due to the bullying nature of Mr Martin.

I have received abusive language via emails and when my home was rung by Mr Martin, an affiliate program is not worth this bullying behaviour so I have decided to move to another affiliateprogram and design yet another template.

Affilatewindow have been informed of this and I now expect the matter to be closed. To Mr Martin himself, please do not contact myself or my home again, threatening behaviour is not something anyone should tolerate and to put an end to it I am leaving the program, please take that as an end to the situation.

On a final note, it would of been nice to have stayed within the program as it's a good program and I wish you all well, I would of liked to of possibly collaborated with some of you due to your obvious wealth of knowledge, however that is not to be.

Again, please do not contact me, I think myself leaving the program is voice enough to end this dispute.

Regards,


FindPriceLive

- The site may should my template for up to 12 hours until a changeover is made.

Amoochi
20-11-08, 15:11
I can prove that these templates originated by myself due to the dated template files (over 12 months) and the photoshop files for the images that I created

So essentially, not only have you stolen my original work, you are also attempting to call me a liar.

Lets see you try and prove this then, because both you and me know full well that you can not provide such a thing. C'mon, lets see these files that your claiming were made 11 months earlier than they actually were, seeing as they were created on 09 October 2008 between 11:29:23 and 16:20:40 and that was just the category images which took 5 hours for me to make.

However, I did and have already provided undeniable proof of ownership of the information which has been stolen. Unless you somehow think you can talk your way out of having my unique affiliate ID scattered several times throughout your pages and that's before I even start on having all the other proof that I need.

And just think... I even provided you with assistance on how to change the amount of hotpicks, not knowing at the time that you were stealing my own templates from me, yet when the template was designed to use 6 hotpicks with my style, you managed to even mess that up. I take it you didn't figure out how to randomise the order in which the hotpicks actually show though... Oh that's right, you wouldn't have managed that seeing as the info for that is stored in a php file, something you couldn't steal.

Final note: You did not recieve abusive emails and bullying behaviour, don't lie. What you recieved was the exact approach that anyone who found out that someone had stolen their work would send to the thief. Also, the threat of legal action is most definately not just a bully tactic.

affiliatemad
20-11-08, 15:16
Unfortunatly Sir, those creation dates are update dates, as to when the files were last updated.

I did receive abuse from you which includes bullying behaviour, which I thank you for your admittance by saying 'not just a bullying tactic' about the way you went about things.

I would appreciate it if you would now leave me alone, I have felt threatened personally, not professionally, about your actions away from this forum, please draw a line under this now.

The site is now off.

Amoochi
20-11-08, 15:20
Unfortunatly Sir, those creation dates are update dates, as to when the files were last updated.

I did receive abuse from you which includes bullying behaviour, which I thank you for your admittance by saying 'not just a bullying tactic' about the way you went about things.

I would appreciate it if you would now leave me alone, I have felt threatened personally, not professionally, about your actions away from this forum, please draw a line under this now.

The site is now off.

Say what ever you want, until I physically see no further presence of my work on any of your domains, I will be continuing my course of action as planned as clearly stated to you within writing.

It is not you who has been threatened, it is myself, in that you have slurred my name with lies, stolen my property and made false accusations. Should this path continue, that too shall play part in any legal action taken. Without predjudice, I ask that you cease immediately.

affiliatemad
20-11-08, 15:22
Mr Martin,

The site is now off and I appreciate your not threathening behaviour now, the site is off, cease all communication.

authcode
20-11-08, 16:05
affiliatemad -

If this website is your original design then why have you not accused Amoochi of stealing your content? Taking your site offline and leaving Affiliate Window does not exactly back up your claim. If you feel Amoochi is "bullying" you and you also believe wholeheartedly that the disputed design is yours, then why not "bully" back?

As someone who has creative work stolen on a regular basis I am accustomed to spotting holes in stories, and I'm afraid yours, sir, is riddled.

Confuscius
20-11-08, 21:37
Was it a handbags site?

Amoochi
20-11-08, 21:40
Was it a handbags site?

No, it was pretty much exactly what you see on my amoochi website. graphics, templates, errors, the works, including my javascripts and other bits.

Or was that more sarcasm? It's hard to tell with you at times? :p

Bud
20-11-08, 21:51
Was it a handbags site?

Chuckle!

http://www.pyramats.com/misc/handbag.gif

(Not meaning to make light of the situation - but that was funny!)

Confuscius
20-11-08, 21:52
Definitely not sarcasm!

If it was a handbags site then I was going to advise the owner to buy a larger handbag given the size of the one that you cuffed him with!

My templates are safe due to the fact that they are so crap that anyone thinking of copying them would first have to remove their straightjacket to get to their keyboard.

Paul